(bbc）斯多葛哲学的生活艺术

木耳

What about adopting stoicism as a way of life? According to academics and psychotherapists from two UK universities, we can learn from the ancient philosophy. They are calling on people to live like a stoic for a week. So how do we do that?

把斯多葛主义当作一种生活方式会怎样呢？来自英国两所大学的学者和心理治疗师说，我们可以从这种古老的哲学中获取有价值的东西。他们号召人们过一周斯多葛主义的生活。那么，我们怎样才能做到呢？

"There is one type of person who whenever he has done a good deed to another, expects and calculates to have the favor repaid. There is a second type of person who does not calculate in such a way, but who nevertheless deep within himself regards the other person as someone who owes him something, and he remembers that he's done the other a good deed. But then there is a third type of person who in some sense does not even remember the good deed he has done, but who instead is like a vine producing its grape, seeking nothing more than having brought forth his own fruit, just like a horse when it does run, a dog when it has followed its scent, a bee when it has made honey."

“有一种人，他帮了别人的忙会期望并且合计着得到回报；第二种人，他不求回报，但在内心深处会觉得别人欠他的，会记得自己帮过这个人。还有一种人，他甚至不会记得自己做过什么好事，就像葡萄藤结葡萄一样，只想结出自己的果实，别无他求。这是一种很自然的状态，就像赛跑时的马，跟着嗅觉走的小狗和酿蜜的峰一样。”

So does the philosophy of stoicism help us lead better and healthier lives?

那么，斯多葛主义能让我们的生活更好、更幸福吗？

"The ideal behavior of a stoic is someone who can meet any circumstance in life well. They focus on the idea that there are some things which are under our control and some things which simply are not and that often we tend out time worrying about things which aren't under our control instead of things which are under our control which we can always do and do well."

“斯多葛主义者的最佳状态是能够很好地面对生活中的各种情况。他们知道，有些事情是我们能够掌控的，而有些事情我们却无法掌控。但我们往往喜欢花时间担心无法掌控的事情，而不是在我们掌控之中的、我们能做到并且能做好的事情。”

"I suppose the popular view of a stoic is somebody whose life is pretty rubbish but just gets on with it."

“我觉得斯多葛主义很受欢迎的一个观点是，一个人即使生活一团糟，也能怡然自得。”

"Uh, that would be the unfair popular view I think. The stoics were actually the first to put forward the idea of community of human kind and the idea that we should really aim to contribute to the common good of humanity. And in addition to that, they actually focused on cultivating positive motions."

“呃，我觉得这就是对斯多葛主义的曲解了。其实，斯多葛主义者是第一个提出人类群体观点的，也是第一个提出——我们应该致力于为全人类的共同利益而贡献力量。另外，斯多葛主义者注重培养积极地生活态度。”

"So in a modern world where you are constantly bombarded with pressures, with demands, with e-mails, how could a stoic cope? "

“在现代社会，我们的生活充斥着压力、各种任务和邮件，那么斯多葛主义者会怎么应对呢？”

"All the things e-mails and phonecalls that come in, they just come to us. But the stoic knows that he or she can always focus on responding to those events well, calmly and collectively."

“所有这些邮件、电话，确实是我们必须面对的。但是斯多葛主义者知道他（她）能够积极良好地应对，并且做到冷静和全面。”

屋子

尤其喜欢第一段的比喻，很棒

灵儿

     很舒服的小文

     

灵儿

灵儿

欧阳柳

看了，总觉得没有结束，却又不能称之为余韵。

像是人为截取的一部分。

这是bbc的一段访谈吗？还是拿来学英文用的？

比喻配上灵儿的图真是妙极了。

我的理解是，文中主张的是一种生活方式。不抱有过高期待，便不会有失望，保持乐观，稳定的情绪。

这不就是传说中的正能量嘛

木耳

原帖由 欧阳柳 于 2013-11-30 17:40 发表 看了，总觉得没有结束，却又不能称之为余韵。像是人为截取的一部分。这是bbc的一段访谈吗？还是拿来学英文用的？比喻配上灵儿的图真是妙极了。我的理解是，文中主张的是一种生活方式。不抱有过高期待，便不会有失望， ...

bbc的一段新闻原文，也是一段访谈。

清和

推薦奧勒留的《沉思錄》，斯多葛人生哲學指南，當年對我啟發很大。

白水

原帖由 清和 于 2013-12-3 17:03 发表 推薦奧勒留的《沉思錄》，斯多葛人生哲學指南，當年對我啟發很大。

 

这书据称是前温总理爱读的书，我买了，而且是中英双语的，只可惜到现在还没翻过呢。